The date in the below info is off by a day. I did check an old calendar and it was a Saturday, October 5, 2002.
Read on...This is my husband and I and what happened to us...and our friends...religious intolerance first hand....and I was actually the only Christian then...
Here’s a scary Halloween story.
Police officers with shot guns and flack jackets break up a pagan wedding, where 2 people are wearing fairy wings
by Tish Owen (owner of The Goddess and The Moon, Nashville TN)
Last night, Saturday October 4th, 2002, I attended a handfasting in Edwin Warner Park in Nashville, Tenn. This is a park that we have used for ritual, both large and small, for more than ten years now. The wedding party was small, only 8 people including myself. The groom had gone down to the park office and gotten a permit for the site. He told the woman who issued the permit that the purpose was a handfasting. In all the years that we have used the park, we have never hidden who we were or what we were doing in the park. I myself have a very nice relationship with the woman in the Parks Reservations office. The bride was young and nervous, she wore a beautiful white gown, flowers in her hair and fairy wings. The groom was handsome and nervous, tall and dressed in ren clothes and a lovely cloak. The ceremony was performed by a friend of mine, many of you know, Beth. It was touching and wonderful.
As we were bringing down the circle and asking for blessings and protections on the park, we were stormed by 6 park rangers. They roared into the area with search lights on, jumped out of their cars with guns raised, ****ed and loaded. They screamed at us to freeze, and raise our hands. We were quickly surrounded by men with guns trained on us. They also had flashlights with which they blinded us. They demanded to know where the other people were, and when we tried to answer, we were screamed at to answer when we were asked a question.20 Thus began an hour long ordeal where we were searched, questioned, and verbally abused, all while we had our hands raised and guns pointed at us.20
The permit was produced within 2 minutes of the rangers arrival, but that did not satisfy them. They asked us who we were, what we were doing and several more times, “where were the other people.” We were asked who was in charge, Beth stepped up to that. One of the rangers started to yell at her about the candles. He stated that he had had that conversation with her before. I stated that it was a conversation he had with me about a year before. He recognized me at that point and started to tell me that we could not have religious ceremonies in the park. I told him that we had that conversation as well a year before. That the next Monday after our conversation, I had talked to his boss at Warner Park who told me that we were within the rules of the park and that no other permit was necessary. The calmer and more reasonable we were, the more an gry and agitated the rangers became.20
After about 15 or 20 minutes, two of the rangers started discussing me within my hearing, one of them turned to me and asked if my name was Ann Gattis, I told him it was Tish Owen. They continued to discuss me, and said that they recognized that name as being on permits for years. One ranger asked if we did not usually get a site by the river. I told him we did. Another asked me if I owned a shop, I told him I owned the Goddess and the Moon. Then they said that we were not honest when we got permits as to what we were doing, and the permits were always in different names. We were accused of not shooting straight with them and telling them half truths. I asked what those half truths were and was told that I would not tell them my correct name. I told them that my name had been Owen for four years and my ID would show that to be the truth. We were accused of being unorthodox. Several of the rangers said “If you didn’t know, and you came up on this, what would you think?” Another said “no matter what, you think that we are supposed to just walk up and make all nice with you people.”
We were asked what religion we were several times. One ranger asked if we were Wiccan. One ranger, the one I had spoken to the year before said that ‘this is a park and you are trying to turn it into something else.” I was told by one ranger that I was arguing with him, when all I was doing was answering his questions. Another told me he did not like my attitude. The men in the party were all searched. Finally we were allowed to put our hands down. If you have never stood with your hands above your head for 30 minutes, let me tell it is not pleasant. All through the ordeal, the bride cried, sometimes breaking into sobbing fits. They searched our belongings including all the ritual gear. They confiscated the sword and athame, after driving them both into a picnic table to prove they were sharp. They made us all produce IDs, took all our info and the tag numbers from our cars. At least two of the rangers told the bride to stop crying because everything was just fine now and there was no reason for her to continue crying.
Finally they left the immediate area. We began to clean up and make sure that we had gotten everything. Beth walked around the circle to make sure we had gotten all the tea lights. One of the rangers came running back to us, and yelled at her to tell him what she was looking for. They again retreated from the area. We loaded our cars and talked among ourselves, still in shock. One of the men, laughed and said “hey this is the first shotgun handfasting.” We all laughed and that brought the rangers back to ask what was going on and say, “We heard someone screaming!” We stated that we were laughing. That did not seem to sit too well with him. After a minute or two, another ranger approached us and demanded once again to know where all the rest of the people were, all the people who had run into the woods. We told
him again, there was no one else. He then asked the same question, and got the same answer. We were then told to collect our stuff and get out, despite the fact that it was 1 minute after 10:00 and the park does not close till 11:00. We packed and left, as we left, we were stopped and our cars were checked, for a head count.
I must say that all the members of the wedding party were calm, acted very well, and were very cooperative. It is always smart to cooperate with a man who has a gun in your face. There was no panic. Even the bride did not panic, she was just so upset that her wedding was ruined by the rangers. Who could blame her. After having thought about this for more that 24 hours, I can say with total honesty that I believe that if one of us had so much as sneezed, we would have been shot. The rangers were driven by testosterone, adrenalin, fear and hatred. If you think that you are safe from this level of storm trooper behavior, you are wrong. They knew who we were and that we had the proper permits within minutes, yet they continued to harass us for an hour. We are a diverse community of free thinkers and independent people, yet, in the face of such action we must pull together…
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Incident at a Pagan Handfasting in Nashville, TN
Author: Grey Cat Source: emails
Title: PAGAN HANDFASTING BROKEN UP BY RANGERS
Incident at a Handfasting in Nashville, TN
Proclaimed from: Nashville
Posted by: Grey Cat
Posted on: 10/13/02
Details: First Report of the Incident
Last night, Saturday October 4th, 2002, I (Tish) attended a handfasting in Edwin Warner Park in Nashville, Tenn. This is a park that we have used for ritual, both large and small, for more than ten years now. The wedding party was small, only 8 people including myself. The groom had gone down to the park office and gotten a permit for the site. He told the woman who issued the permit that the purpose was a handfasting. In all the years that we have used the park, we have never hidden who we were or what we were doing in the park. I myself have a very nice relationship with the woman in the Parks Reservations office. The bride was young and nervous, she wore a beautiful white gown, flowers in her hair and fairy wings. The groom was handsome and nervous, tall and dressed in ren clothes and a lovely cloak. The ceremony was performed by a friend of mine.
It was touching and wonderful. As we were bringing down the circle and asking for blessings and protections on the park, we were stormed by 6 park rangers. They roared into the area with search lights on, jumped out of their cars with guns raised, ****ed and loaded. They screamed at us to freeze, and raise our hands. We were quickly surrounded by men with guns trained on us. They also had flashlights with which they blinded us. They demanded to know where the other people were, and when we tried to answer, we were screamed at to answer when we were asked a question. Thus began an hour long ordeal where we were searched, questioned, and verbally abused, all while we had our hands raised and guns pointed at us. The permit was produced within 2 minutes of the rangers arrival, but that did not satisfy them. They asked us who we were, what we were doing and several more times, "where were the other people."
We were asked who was in charge, Beth stepped up to that. One of the rangers started to yell at her about the candles. He stated that he had had that conversation with her before. I stated that it was a converstation he had with me about a year before. He recognized me at that point and started to tell me that we could not have religious ceremonies in the park. I told him that we had that converstation as well a year before. At that time, thenext Monday after my conversation with that ranger, I had talked to his boss at Warner Park who told me that we were within the rules of the park and that no other permit was necessary.
The calmer and more reasonable we were, the more angry and agitated the rangers became. After about 15 or 20 minutes, two of the rangers started discussing me within my hearing, one of them turned to me and asked if my name was Ann Gattis, I told him it was Tish Owen. They continued to discuss me, and said that they recognized that name as being on permits for years. One ranger asked if we did not usually get a site by the river. I told him we did. Another asked me if I owned a shop, I told him I owned the Goddess and the Moon. Then they said that we were not honest when we got permits as to what we were doing, and the permits were always in different names.
We were accused of not shooting straight with them and telling them half truths. I asked what those half truths were and was told that I would not tell them my correct name. I told them that my name had been Owen for four years and my ID would show that to be the truth. We were accused of being unorthodox. Several of the rangers said "If you didn't know, and you came up on this, what would you think?" Another said "no matter what, you think that we are supposed to just walk up and make all nice with you people." We were asked what religion we were several times. One ranger asked if we were Wiccan. One ranger, the one I had spoken to the year before said that 'this is a park and you are trying to turn it into something else."
I was told by one ranger that I was arguing with him, when all I was doing was answering his questions. Another told me he did not like my attitude. The men in the party were all searched. Finally we were allowed to put our hands down. If you have never stood with your hands above your head for 30 minutes, let me tell it is not pleasant. All through the ordeal, the bride cried, sometimes breaking into sobbing fits. They searched our belongings including all the ritual gear. They conficated the sword and athame, after driving them both into a picnic table to prove they were sharp. They made us all produce IDs, took all our info and the tag numbers from our cars.
At least two of the rangers told the bride to stop crying because everything was just fine now and there was no reason for her to continue crying. Finally they left the immediate area. We began to clean up and make sure that we had gotten everything. Beth walked around the circle to make sure we had gotten all the tea lights. One of the rangers came running back to us, and yelled at her to tell him what she was looking for. They again retreated from the area. We loaded our cars and talked among ourselves, still in shock. One of the men, laughed and said "hey this is the first shotgun handfasting." We all laughed and that brought the rangers back to ask what was going on and say, "We heard someone screaming!" We stated that we were laughing. That did not seem to sit too well with him.
After a minute or two, another ranger approached us and demanded once again to know where all the rest of the people were, all the people who had run into the woods. We told him again, there was no one else. He then asked the same question, and got the same answer. We were then told to collect our stuff and get out, despite the fact that it was 1 minute after 10:00 and the park does not close til 11:00. We packed and left, as we left, we were stopped and our cars were checked, for a head count.
I must say that all them members of the wedding party were calm, acted very well, and were very cooperative. It is always smart to cooperate with a man who has gun in your face. There was no panic. Even the bride did not panic, she was just so upset that her wedding was ruined by the rangers. Who could blame her. After having thought about this for more that 24 hours, I can say with total honesty that I believe that if one of us had so much as sneezed, we would have been shot. The rangers were driven by testosterone, adrenalin, fear and hatred. They knew who we were and that we had the proper permits within minutes, yet they continued to harass us for an hour.
We are a diverse community of free thinkers and independent people, yet, in the face of such action we must pull together. Despite the fact that many of us do like each other, or agree with how we do business or run our covens or groups, we must present a united front. The time for infighting is over. The American Indians and the Irish Kings were defeated because they fought each other as hard as they fought their enemies.
Announcement of Ritual on Friday, October 11 in Nashville
We have picnic area #11 reserved in Edwin Warner Park for Friday October 11th for ritual. This was planned far in advance of our recent problems in that park. We want to go ahead and hold ritual, after informing the park officials that we will be there. Many of you are upset about the incident in the park and this is your first opportunity to do something about it. Show up for ritual. The parks officials need to see that there are more than just a handful of pagans in this area. This is not a protest, nor are we looking for confrontation. We are simnply exercising our right to assemble. Please bring food to share. Do not bring blades of any kind, alcohol or drugs or anything that can be thought of as illegal or dangerous. Ritual will begin at 8:00 PM and if you do not know the way, come to the shop and we will leave here at 7:00 PM, real time not pagan standard time.
Meeting with Park authorities scheduled
I do know that I have gotten over 100 emails, and about 50 phone calls, and that the original post is "everywhere" In fact, the Comm. of Metro Parks had a copy when I talked to him. We have a meeting set up for Friday at 2 PM with the groom, myself, Comm. of Metro Parks, Comm. of Warner Parks, and the head ranger. Much depends on the outcome of that meeting. I have a list of things I want, but the most important is that we put guidelines in place for use of the park that insures that this NEVER happens again.
I also think that the rangers need training on alternative religions. I bet I can lots of volunteers for that. Anyway, if this goes well, I want all the people who are up in arms to write to the proper people and thank them. If it goes bad, and I don't think it will, I want them to write. After the meeting, I will post the outcome and the email addresses. I can't believe how big this has gotten, but it is good to see the pagan community banding together and they are. There has only been one negative comment that I have seen and that was on Witch Wars from someone that I do not even know. Otherwise, we are all making nice.
Peace,
Tish
Email: greycat13@yahoo.com
Website:
http://www.paganunityfestival.org/index.htmlUPDATE: Thank you for posting the original story. I have an update for you. The groom and I had a meeting with the Commissioner Of Metro Parks, the Head of Warner Parks, and the Head Ranger today at 2:00 P.M. They were very polite and professional. We discussed the incident at length. It seems that a Ranger saw our candles, and came to investigate. He did not know who or what we were. At some point, the Ranger thought that there were people in the woods sneaking up on him. At that point, he went back to his car and called for back-up. You know the rest of that story.
In our meeting today we asked for a written apology for the bride and groom, our names and addresses expunged from their records, the return of the ritual tools that were taken, guidelines so that this never happens again, and a mandatory class on Wicca for the Rangers. We got all of that.
I am pleased that the parks officials took us seriously and realized that there was a big problem. I am more pleased that they were willing to work with us to solve the problem. I will not take up space here with the guidelines that were set in place today, as they only pertain to Nashville, Tenn. If you are interested, email me at wowtish@msn.com and I will be happy to give you details. It would be wonderful for those of you who are interested to email the park officials and thank them for the professional manner in which they handled this matter. We need to take people to task when things are wrong, but we also need to give them a pat on the back when they do well. It also would not hurt for them to know that there are a lot of us in the world.
David Eubank Metro Parks david.eubank@nashville.gov
Bob Parrish Warner Parks bob.parrish@nashville.gov
Lt. John Copeland John.Copeland@nashville.gov
Peace,
Tish
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