this is moved from another thread cuz i felt it deserved more attention than it would receive lost in another thread. anyone got words of wisdom for our new sis, sharon?
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Originally posted by sharonkateri: Well, if it's that she got "blessed" to be protected from "evil spirits/spells/etc" whatever, then you may as well condemn me too.
Yeah, I've asked friends (very good Christian friends) to pray for me/over me, because I believe that I may have been cursed.
Will try to keep this short: Uncle going thru divorce circa 2000. Soon-to-be-ex, in a conversation about something, somehow admits to being a "witch". Truthfully, don't know if I can believe her or not (she is the type to invent something if she thinks it'll give her an advantage). Soon after that, Uncle wins something in court against her. Not long after that - entire family starts experiencing "bad luck". (Don't know how else to describe it.) Mom ends up in hospital, lung disease acting up; Aunt ends up in hospital after second day of cruise - double pneumonia. Uncle's daughter (supposed-witch's daughter, too), playing with a few kids in the bedroom, falls on her head and experiences paralysis (does go away after a few hours, though...)...
That's just the beginning. It's been 5+ years now since this all happened, and to be quite honest, it hasn't let up. My mother passed away 3+ yrs ago. My aunt now has the same lung disease that killed my mother, and her husband - diagnosed with pancreatic cancer earlier this year, given an "all-clear" after surgery in late March, then diagnosed with inoperable cancer in his liver in July. Uncle spent time in hospital last Sept - blood clots in lungs - he has been unemployed for a year now...running out of money - THEN he hits a deer. Would've "totalled" his car, but he never got a $71 bill from his insurance company, so they'd CANCELLED him! (Now reinstated!)
And guess who had to max out her credit card so he could get his car back...
Also, I infamously got a nasty pneumonia and ended up in the hospital for 6 weeks, was operated on, etc. And STILL struggling with that crap, too.
Well...I don't want to bore you with EVERYTHING (I know...too late!)... Let's just say I will forever be grateful to Sully Erna, simply because the ONE NIGHT of peace and relaxation and NO worry that I've had in at least the last 5 years was seeing him solo last May in New Jersey. (Nice 4 hr drive down - I love to drive! - bummin' round the casino till showtime - fantastic show, then a nice 4 hr drive back...just a PERFECT day for me!) Except for that ONE day, I am just...ugh. Exhausted, really, at this point. No use in asking "What'll happen next?" Just means I'm gonna find out...
And yes, I have sought "spiritual" help. Someone told me that to break a spell, you have to put salt in your urine. Well...we all were doing that! (Imagine my poor mom, in the hospital on a sodium restricted diet, asking the nurses for salt so she can put it in her pee?!!! I'm surprised they didn't move her to the "funny ward"!) Maybe that's something from an old Irish wives tale.
I've had my friend Mike (about to start a "healing ministry" in his Methodist church) pray over me. He got a few of his fellow church-goers, too. Several co-workers know about my situation (the WHOLE thing) - they've been praying for me too. Asked an Army chaplain (friend of mine) what I could do; he's also been praying for me. Another old high-school chum (Aaron) is an AME Zionist minister - HE'S praying for me, too, and tried an "exorcism" of some kind (not like you see in the movies....I wasn't spinning my head and spitting out pea soup!) And despite all this...I still can't catch a break.
I thought, "Maybe I'm asking 'God' for too much," but not really. I mean, I'm not looking for anything other than resolutions to what's going on now, and just some happy moments for my family. I'm not asking for a BIG JACKPOT win, or anything extravagant. Just a little peace and quiet, rather than the chaos it's been. I don't want to hear my uncle talking about "giving up" - "walking away" - etc - not with a 14 year old daughter. He lost his father at 14, I lost my father at 14, and I will be DAMNED if I'm gonna let that happen to her ('specially since she does NOT get along with her mother at all...it's beyond the common mother-daughter squabbling - the daughter has nailed her mother in some major lies, and daughter has seen that mom will only help her when it's convenient for the mother...the so-called witch.) I'm trying to hold my aunt together, too - as she faces the impending passing of her husband from cancer. SH*T - I'm the "baby" of the family, and yet - somehow, I'm the one "responsible" to take care of everything! (That was always my mother's job...THANKS MA!)
So...there you have it. Sorry...guess I had to vent it (again)...didn't mean to. I have asked Christians to help me out, and pray with me/over me/whatever, against (what may be) the "curse" of a witch.
Of course, I would welcome "witch-input" as well (maybe Palin would've done better had she done that, too?). Being life's virtual punching bag for the last couple of years, I'm at my wits end here. Any help anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated!
Maybe I'm beyond help, this has been going on so long. I dunno...
Y'know...I don't start out, wanting to ramble like that. Just things get quiet at the office, I start going - and boom. There is it - a freakin' novel of my life!
They say if you go to Ireland and kiss the Blarney Stone, you're given the "Gift of Gab". Well...I have a sneakin' suspicion that my ancestors may have done something a lot nastier on that Blarney Stone...
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First of all, Sharon, I so wish the black stripe to be over and behind you all already. I am not sure about being cursed though. For your uncle's ex to F up the whole family like that, she would need to either be very crafty herself or to have a powerful ally. I don't do any sort of magic myself, so take everything I say with a big grain of salt and divide it by ten. But my impression from various sources is that to causing a calamity is asking for a comeback if someone is doing it themselves or paying out of their own resources if they need help. The comeback can sometimes be avoided at someone else's expense, the payment can't. Where I go with all this is that just being a witch (even if she actually meant it) isn't nearly enough to give you all so much grief. But if your family is Christian, the ex could mentioned it intentionally to trigger the knee-jerk reaction about possible curses which can work on subconscious level even if consciously you don't see curses as something plausible. But really, what you are going through can be due to natural causes. We are having it going on since 2003 in our family (deaths - almost none from old age, bad health, loosing jobs, getting into relationships that scare the $^#% out of the rest of the family - you name it), and there is no one in sight to blame for a possible curse.
~~~~~~~ CoffeeOwl
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Wow Sharon, I'm sorry that you and your family has gone through so much.
As for it being a curse, I have no say in what to believe in. I guess it could really be possible for it to be a curse (I do have an open mind on things) but it also could just be the way life goes. Either way, I hope the dark clouds clear up for you and your family.
Sometimes I think I'm cursed for certain reasons, but I still live another day.
Originally posted by CoffeeOwl: We are having it going on since 2003 in our family (deaths - almost none from old age, bad health, loosing jobs, getting into relationships that scare the $^#% out of the rest of the family - you name it), and there is no one in sight to blame for a possible curse.
Hmmmm...if I actually sit and start working on the math of it all...2002-2003 would be about the same time frame it really kicked into gear for us (whole family included)...??? Maybe there's something in the universe that just nailed us both?
As for the uncle's ex-...let's just say we don't call her "The Beast" for nothing! I'd call her a "beyotch" - but that'd be an insult to "beyotches" everywhere.
She is a woman who gets her way - period. She'll agree to something, then change her mind, and demand that you give in to her. When you don't (because you've already made plans with the original agreement), you're being vindictive and mean-spirited. Yet then she'll tell you that she purposely did something to try to foil YOUR plans because you were so mean and vindictive.
Get that? We're talking about a woman with no logic sense whatsoever. Also, she's a woman who will do whatever it takes to get what she wants...no matter who's gonna get hurt (even herself; she'd take "comfort" in seeing us go down...). (Sad thing is I've known her since my uncle first started going with her - since I was 9 years old. Now, 31 years later...there's a big gaping hole where she rammed the cleaver in...)
Certainly, there could be the mental aspect to it (we are a bunch of superstitious Irish Catholics, rememeber! ), so certainly there is a possibility that we may have all convinced ourselves that it is a curse, when it just may be "bad luck".
But, if there's something to be done to ward off curses...never hurts to try, right? Just in case...be on the safe side...{insert your own cliche here}...
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Hmmmm...if I actually sit and start working on the math of it all...2002-2003 would be about the same time frame it really kicked into gear for us (whole family included)...??? Maybe there's something in the universe that just nailed us both
hey girl the universe been goin through a spin so to speak ... i feel big time for ur fam, and tho i do believe in curses n tha worx.. it seems as mentioned above pretty large for one witch to effect an entire family tree of events.................. in my opinion i also agree that she would have to have an ali, or group behind her... there has been a lot of changes to our planet in the last few years, some are noticed some are still unnoticed.. this has been effecting people in many ways.. stay strong, keep eachother close and positive.. and believe truly this woman cannot effect u anymore than she has if u unite the love and strength of your whole family, that should be enough to conquor anything.... best of luck girl
banish her. a very sweet witch from this very board told me of an easy way to banish someone from your life - seal their name in a jar and put it deep in your freezer, in essence; freezing their ability to affect you. since she seems to have some influence on all your family, it wouldn't hurt for them to do the same. i wouldn't do it for someone whom i'd like to avoid but does have some decency but it sounds like this woman just needs to be gone. we'll call it "the bitch be gone" spell.
btw - it pays to listen well to the wise witches and spiritual people here as they do know what witches are capable of and what they aren't capable of.
Originally posted by MamaKat: banish her. a very sweet witch from this very board told me of an easy way to banish someone from your life - seal their name in a jar and put it deep in your freezer, in essence; freezing their ability to affect you. since she seems to have some influence on all your family, it wouldn't hurt for them to do the same. i wouldn't do it for someone whom i'd like to avoid but does have some decency but it sounds like this woman just needs to be gone. we'll call it "the bitch be gone" spell.
Actually, I have a just-finished mayo jar, ready for action!
I did mention the "salty pee" story above. If I could get a number of (at least) semi-intelligent human beings to salt their body-wastes, I think I can get the family to do the "frozen jar" ritual as well. Well...my one uncle may not really be able to completely banish her (they have a daughter who is 14, so he still needs to have contact with her...few more years for him).
AND...don't think I mentioned this, but the "beyotch" and I have the same first name. When she married my uncle, we then had the same first name/last initials (but different last names...). For a while after the divorce, I insisted on being called "Kate" from my middle name; however, I realized I was THE SHARON in this family, she'd only married in...I had the right to be THE SHARON I have mentioned before that I am slightly off-centered, right? Hopefully, the "powers" don't get it confused and come after me! (And this is the proper application of Murphy's Law...)
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btw - it pays to listen well to the wise witches and spiritual people here as they do know what witches are capable of and what they aren't capable of.
ABSOLUTELY...My dad used to say: When you're car needs to be fixed, you don't take it to a farmer - you take it to a mechanic. I certainly listen to those who know...
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Originally posted by sharonkateri: Hmmmm...if I actually sit and start working on the math of it all...2002-2003 would be about the same time frame it really kicked into gear for us (whole family included)...??? Maybe there's something in the universe that just nailed us both?
Of course. Sh!t happens, why not to you or me or someone else? BTW, 2002 was quite ok for us.
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As for the uncle's ex-...let's just say we don't call her "The Beast" for nothing! I'd call her a "beyotch" - but that'd be an insult to "beyotches" everywhere.
She is a woman who gets her way - period. She'll agree to something, then change her mind, and demand that you give in to her. When you don't (because you've already made plans with the original agreement), you're being vindictive and mean-spirited. Yet then she'll tell you that she purposely did something to try to foil YOUR plans because you were so mean and vindictive.
Get that? We're talking about a woman with no logic sense whatsoever. Also, she's a woman who will do whatever it takes to get what she wants...no matter who's gonna get hurt (even herself; she'd take "comfort" in seeing us go down...). (Sad thing is I've known her since my uncle first started going with her - since I was 9 years old. Now, 31 years later...there's a big gaping hole where she rammed the cleaver in...)
Oy. What a treasure to deal with... My condolences.
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Certainly, there could be the mental aspect to it (we are a bunch of superstitious Irish Catholics, remember! ), so certainly there is a possibility that we may have all convinced ourselves that it is a curse, when it just may be "bad luck".
But, if there's something to be done to ward off curses...never hurts to try, right? Just in case...be on the safe side...{insert your own cliche here}...
There certainly is, whether you are dealing with a curse or bad luck. It's not about staying positive though, it won't necessarily alleviate all problems, and it's about as exciting as eating healthy or brushing your teeth twice a day. It's about feeling protected, shielded from possible harm. The easiest way to do so is to visualize being surrounded by pure white light, being completely enveloped in it ( old meaning of the word "pure" in many languages is "protected from any harm, something that can't be corrupted"). Put positive/negative aside for a few minutes and concentrate on feeling safe. How you visualize that light, doesn't really matter: pouring down on you from heaven, emanating from your body, enclosing you like a shell - whatever works better, use that. Since you are a cornerstone for your family, it could do you even more good. I was a peacemaker in my family for years before moving to US, not quite the same thing, I know, but the exercise helped me tremendously to deal with everyone's real and imaginary problems. Don't force yourself into that state of mind, that won't help as feeling vulnerable / under a spell and trying hard to feel safe is basically the same thing. Instead, keep reaffirming yourself that you are safe and able to deal with whatever comes your way. The best objective is to shift away from worry and fear completely. If that doesn't happen quickly - keep working on it. It eventually will. Now, I have no idea how you can make other family members do the same... but maybe there is a way. You can, of course, do the same visualization for you loved ones, but since you said somewhere else on the forums that praying over you and yours doesn't seem to work, I am afraid visualizing on behalf of others won't necessarily help either. Although you never know until you try. Nothing against salt or frozen jars, and I never, ever did anything like that because I am too lazy, but I believe gradually changing your mindset in addition to whatever actions won't hurt.
~~~~~~~ CoffeeOwl
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We're talking about a woman with no logic sense whatsoever. Also, she's a woman who will do whatever it takes to get what she wants...no matter who's gonna get hurt (even herself; she'd take "comfort" in seeing us go down...). (Sad thing is I've known her since my uncle first started going with her - since I was 9 years old. Now, 31 years later...there's a big gaping hole where she rammed the cleaver in...)
), so certainly there is a possibility that we may have all convinced ourselves that it is a curse, when it just may be "bad luck".
Just in case...be on the safe side...{insert your own cliche here}...
