I saw an event on facebook that I want to get to but I'm not sure I can, and i want to bring it up here, since it seems to be a current event lately.
So I want to share my thoughts on gay marriage:
-I think everyone regardless of whatever social demographic they are, should be able to experience love in the same manner that everyone else can. -I think at the very least, since this is also a separation of church and state issue, that we leave it up to the churches. If they don't want to do it however, a Justice of the Peace must perform it. -I also think that this should be a uniform guarantee, like citizenship, or equal rights between races.
That's a good question. Honestly, being bisexual myself, I think everyone has the right to love who they want. If a guy loves a guy, or a woman loves a woman, just as a man and a woman love each other, it should be accepted.
As far as religion goes... John 3:16. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only son. And whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." In the King James version of the Bible, it is a bit different, however. "Whosoever" is used. Doesn't EVERYONE fall into that category? My friend's mom has a little rainbow cross and "whosoever" tattooed. She is a lesbian, yes. And that tattoo is proving a point. The Bible doesn't say "whosoever as long as they are straight," does it? It never said that if you are gay, you can't believe in what the Bible says.
That's my insight.
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Just Christianity nothing more. Before Christ, men would lye with other men and woman, didnt' think anything of it. But there are those out there that actually take the meaning of the words in the bible correclty and treat others as they would like to be treated.
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Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13. Taken straight from Jewish Torah. Leviticus however only says that the act is a sin, it does not say anything about anyone's orientation. There is an opinion in Rabbinical Judaism (a very conservative branch, BTW) that as long as the person does not make his preference public and in the community's collective face, then he is loved by God just like any other Jew, should be seen as part of that community and not ostracized in any way. And those who offer this part of the Bible or Torah as a basis for their view on homosexuality just happen so to ignore the rest of Leviticus with its many rules that would greatly inconvenienced them in everyday life. The Bible actually is poor reference on this topic, it's too inconsistent to offer solid support to either opinion.
It's the first time I hear from a gay person that orientation is a mater of choice though. From what I read before it's genetics, and you have no more choice in it then with the color of your eyes. No?
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Originally posted by Evil Angel: correct, the act is a sin. But remember, not everything is spelled out. The act of being with somebody of the same sex is being gay, from the way they wrote it. It's not gonna specifically say "being homosexual."
The act = intercourse, and of course the Bible does not use any of those words. The reason for this interpretation is tribal mentality that the Old Testament bears. A member of the tribe does what is best for the tribe, and the best for the tribe (especially for a nomadic tribe that does not have lots of their own resources) is to reproduce and multiply. Else it won't be able to conquer or keep anything - desert, lack of resources, neighbors seeking the said tribe's demise. Laying with the same sex means no reproduction and thus forbidden. The rest is not covered in the Bible or Torah, so modern condemnation of gays has no merit at all.
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As far as my opinion on homosexuality as genetic or choice: it has never been fully proven that it is genetic. My example of children knowing from a young age supports it, but there are people that are confused and/or do choice to not be gay. That's why I support both. As a bisexual, my earliest memories of my realization of being gay was 2nd grade. I didn't understand what it was until I was older though. Probably by 7th grade. I didn't openly come out until about 8th grade.
Mm. Something to look into. Either way it's no one's business but that of a gay/bi person.
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Posts: 4828 | Location: Outskirts of Silicon Valley, California | Registered: April 05, 2006
Unless they actually choose to let it out in the open and say "this is who I am and I'm proud." And Kendra, how can it be genetic? I don't really think it is.
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There is no real proof in either direction, as soon as there is a study that proves genetics, there's yet another study that proves its choice instead.
I just think that we need a tragic rewrite of the bible, and I would hope that this so-called "second coming" happens so Christians will have some new s*** to write about! I want to see the book of First Sheniqua! "And yo, that motherf*cker came down out tha sky yo!" Hey, it could happen....and GW wasn't president.
I think seriously that in this society, gay marriage, and everything that separates society should be tossed out the window. There is no place for separation in society, no longer. It's stupid and pointless.
"Yo check this sh*t out! In, like, seven days, dawg, this dude up in da sky made muh homiez! It was so ****in' trippy! Holod on, hold on. Gotta pull out that crack pipe mothafukah!"
I can see it no. Hilarious. Religious blasphemy at it's prime. Lets do it!!!
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Ok ok. Recently, I've been all grrr. What is wrong with people? Some are ok with people they don't know being gay. What if it was their own daughter? What then?
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Honestly, I don't know. I've always thought it had to do with issues of control. Not being in control of everything really aggravates some people. They try to control others because they have no control in their own life. Just running from their own insecurities. Something like that.
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